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: WHILE I FIGURE OUT THE PLACEMENTS, EVERYONE GETS TO ASK THE JUDGES ANYTHING THEY WANT... Galileocan : Too Bloody Close....we'll need IBM on this one! RONTANO : HA~ RONTANO : You mean a MAC!! RONTANO : (Always controversy!) JMacdon711 : Has the judging gone pretty much the same. RONTANO : :)) Linda8894 : Go blue!! Galileocan : Sorry Dogonice : Quesion for LJohn .... only a *5.4* presentation for 'Casablanca'? TW Mowry : Guys I am going to Skate America so I plan on getting more photos in the library once SGskate : What do you want it to be? Linda8894 : We are judging the Men's Olympic competition. LJohn61755 : Ah, Familia ! LeeAnn 1 : Hello everyone! LJohn61755 : Hi, Lee. LeeAnn 1 : We still need a few people to show I think. Linda8894 : Hi Lee Ann!!! CanadaSk8 : Hi, Lee Ann Faxel 1 : Would be nice to have a few more judges around ;) LeeAnn 1 : Does anyone here want to judge? We had a last minute cancelation. LJohn61755 : Who's missing ? RONTANO : HI! Dogonice : Hi folks. LeeAnn 1 : Monica, we'll wait until about 10 past to see who shows up late. SGskate : Was there a Men's competition? Was there a figure skating Olympic competion. There was not Faxel 1 : Hi Dogonice! Sesti : I'd love to, but I haven't seen the competition since it aired. Sorry.... RONTANO : I'm ready.. (Except for ordinals.. I'm not a mathmajor:)) Dogonice : Hi Faxel! Are we *ready*? LJohn61755 : The "94 Olympics LeeAnn 1 : We're waiting for Kate and Galileocan. RONTANO : HI, dog and all. Peltza : What is the topic of the day? Linda8894 : Kate is always late. Dogonice : Hi Ron! LeeAnn 1 : Sklar cancelled. Does anyone here want to be a judge for the 1994 Olympics, men's competition. SGskate : I repeat there was no figure skating in the 94 Olympics! LJohn61755 : I'm telling you said that Linda. Linda8894 : She knows! Sesti : AOL is moving particularly slow today, at least for me...give them a little time. RONTANO : Boy.. The hard part was finding all my tapes amoung my "hundreds'!! :)) LJohn61755 : SG where were you ? I just watched the tapes this morning. Linda8894 : I had the same problem. LeeAnn 1 : It has been very slow for me too, Sesti. SGskate : It's not Linda. In psychiatric terms this is known as DENIAL. LeeAnn 1 : Also, Joanna was supposed to host, but couldn't so we have to give out the ordinals tonight. Normally LeeAnn 1 : it would be ideal if a host could figure out the ordinals without everyone else seeing, but we LeeAnn 1 : need two judges for that and we don't have that many tonight. CanadaSk8 : The hard part was trying to remember which one of my friends had the tape. Linda8894 : What SG??? RONTANO : (O.K. I'll fake it.. my numbers are pretty close, but I know the Artistic wins a tie.) Galileocan : Good evening all! Dogonice : Question for clarification, LeeAnn ... Faxel 1 : We've got ourselves another judge! RONTANO : Hi Gall.. SGskate : LJohn61755, what tapes did you watch this morning? Sesti : Evening! Galileocan : Here comes da judge LJohn61755 : My 94 Olympics. LeeAnn 1 : Hello Galileocan. Linda8894 : Hi Gal. Dogonice : We have to use the top 6 as determined by the judges, not necessarily DangerDerr : Hello! Sorry I was not here last week. Dogonice : the top 6 *we* would have had, right? Galileocan : The top six finishers overall at the end (official standings) RONTANO : Right.. SGskate : LJohn, what tapes did you watch this morning? R0528 : what is tonights topic? Faxel 1 : The skaters are warming up . . . LeeAnn 1 : Okay, while we're waiting for Kate to show, I'll go through what we're doing. SGskate : Hi, R0528 RONTANO : (Thats right Dog,, you can't sneak Cousins in there:))) R0528 : hi Galileocan : Lee Ann, talk in caps again...more organized... Linda8894 : I would rather watch the practice. Dogonice : Darn, Ron, how did you *know*? RONTANO : ; ) LeeAnn 1 : WE ARE RE-JUDGING THE MEN'S 1992 OLYMPIC COMPETITION. Galileocan : What! Linda8894 : No, Lee 1994! RONTANO : WHAT.. '94?? Galileocan : 1994 LeeAnn 1 : WE ARE USING ONLY THE TOP 6 OVERALL FINISHERS FROM THE ACTUAL COMPETITION. LeeAnn 1 : SORRY, THAT'S RIGHT IT'S 1994. Galileocan : Phew LeeAnn 1 : I WILL ANNOUNCE EACH SKATER. Faxel 1 : Drumrolls . . . TBowden4AU : WAR CanadaSk8 : I hope you all know I'm missing ER for this. TBowden4AU : EAGLE! SGskate : Linda8894, my name is SGSkate. DENIAL is the way I can handle the 94 Olympics??? Galileocan : My judging hand is trembling...... LeeAnn 1 : EACH JUDGE WILL GIVE HIS ARTISTIC THEN TECHNICAL MARK AND THEN THEIR OVERAL ORDIANL FOR THE SHORT LeeAnn 1 : PROGRAM. LeeAnn 1 : WE WILL GO THROUGH EACH SATKER IN THIS MANNER. Linda8894 : Okay SGSkate, and I feel the same way. Galileocan : technical first no? Faxel 1 : Both marks at the same time? Galileocan : that sounds right LeeAnn 1 : THEN WE WILL HAVE SOMEONE BE THE ZAMBONI DRIVER AND ENTERTAIN YOU ALL WHILE I FIGURE OUT THE OVERALL LeeAnn 1 : STANDING AFTER THE SHORT. LeeAnn 1 : THEN WE WILL DO THE SAME FOR THE LONG. LeeAnn 1 : THEN I WILL TELL YOU WHO WON. Galileocan : Ron is a judge....he would have been great entertainment...he could sing Tosca! LeeAnn 1 : THEN WE WILL DO A QUESTION AND ANSWER. Faxel 1 : I can't stand the suspense . . . LeeAnn 1 : WHEN YOU GIVE YOUR SCORE DO IT LIKE THIS: Galileocan : Im soooooo nerrrrvous LeeAnn 1 : JUDGE 1: 5.9 5.7 (3) Faxel 1 : Got it. Galileocan : Go ya covered Manoose : what is up in here? LeeAnn 1 : THE FIRST SCORE IS THE TECHNICAL. THE SECON IS THE ARTISTIC AND THE NUMBER IN () IS THE OVERALL SCORE. RONTANO : o.k. Peltza : Who are the judges tonight? LJohn61755 : Gotcha. Galileocan : Ron, hum a few bars of Tosca to loosen us up RONTANO : :))) Dogonice : E lucevan le stelle ................ LeeAnn 1 : HERE ARE THE JUDGES... RONTANO : Vissi di arte.. vissi LeeAnn 1 : JUDGE #1 IS FAXEL 1. Galileocan : ahhhh LeeAnn 1 : JUDGE #2 IS DOGONICE. Galileocan : Applause Dogonice : No singing the soprano part, Ron! LeeAnn 1 : JUDGE #3 IS GALILEOCAN. Peltza : Gal, I am surprised you do not sing too. Galileocan : thank you thank you Galileocan : {tada} LeeAnn 1 : JUDGE #4 IS CANADASK8. LeeAnn 1 : JUDGE #5 IS LINDA8894 CanadaSk8 : I hear the echo of my name throughout the arena. LeeAnn 1 : JUDGE #6 SKIPPED TOWN DUE TO A CONTROVERSY INVOLVING A ICE DANCER. THAT SEAT IS VACANT. LeeAnn 1 : JUDGE #7 IS RONTANO. LeeAnn 1 : JUDGE #8 IS KDUNGCA -- LATE AS USUAL. :) LeeAnn 1 : AND JUDGE #9 IS LJOHN61755. LJohn61755 : Last but certainly not least. LeeAnn 1 : OKAY, DO YOU ALL THINK WE SHOULD START WITHOUT THE ABSENTEE JUDGE? OR DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO FILL IN CircusStar : What is the topic of the day? LeeAnn 1 : WE'RE RE-JUDGING THE 1994 MEN'S OLYMPIC COMPETITION. Galileocan : We need an odd number or it could end up a tie! Faxel 1 : How will be break a tie? Galileocan : Someone volunteer! LJohn61755 : Thank you, Lee. LeeAnn 1 : YOU'RE WELCOME LOREN. LeeAnn 1 : I DON'T KNOW, WE'LL WING IT. LET'S GET STARTED. Galileocan : ok Sesti : From my seat in the arena, I can see the judges' concentration....the tension mounts... LJohn61755 : ok Faxel 1 : Can I give two scores? ;> (Just kidding!) CanadaSk8 : Rock, scissors, paper shoot? LeeAnn 1 : FIRST SKATER UP IS URMANOV, JUDGES GIVE YOUR SCORES, PLEASE. Faxel 1 : 5.7/5.9 (1) LJohn61755 : 9:5.9 5.9 (1) Galileocan : Judge 3: 5.8/5.8 (1) Dogonice : Judge # 2: 5.8 5.8 (1) RONTANO : Judge 7 : 5.5 / 5.6 (2) CanadaSk8 : judge 4- 5.8/5.7 (2) NoHit : I hope I'm not interrrupting, but I just arrived. Hello, all! Now I'll be quiet! Linda8894 : Judge #5: 5.6/5.8 (2) LeeAnn 1 : GREAT, NOW BOITANO IS UP... Faxel 1 : Judge 1: 5.1/5/5 (5) Galileocan : Judge 3: 5.1 / 5.5 (5) LeeAnn 1 : (ALSO, PLEASE PUT THE NUMBER JUDGE YOU ARE BEFORE YOUR SCORE.) LJohn61755 : 9: 5.5 5.8 (4) Linda8894 : Judge 5: 5.3/5.7 (4) RONTANO : Judge 7: 5.2 / 5.7 (3) Faxel 1 : That was 5.5 for artistic. CanadaSk8 : judge 4- 5.4/5.7 (4) Dogonice : Judge #2: 5.1 5.6 (5) LeeAnn 1 : NOW, STOJKO TAKES THE ICE.... Galileocan : Judge 3: 5.8 / 5.8 (1) Faxel 1 : Judge 1: 5.7/5.7 (2) RONTANO : Judge 7 : 5.7 / 5.7 (1) Linda8894 : Judge 5: 5.8/5.7 (1) LJohn61755 : 9: 5.8 5.7 (2) CanadaSk8 : judge 4- 5.8/5.8 (1) Dogonice : Judge 2: 5.7 5.6 (2) LeeAnn 1 : AND NOW CANDELORO. Dogonice : Judge 2: 5.6 5.6 (3) Faxel 1 : Judge 1: 5.6/5.6 (3) Linda8894 : Judge 5: 5.4/5.6 (3) Galileocan : Judge 3: 5.7 / 5.6 (3) RONTANO : Judge 7: 5.4 / 5.5 (4) LJohn61755 : Judge 9: 5.7 5.7 (3) CanadaSk8 : judge 4: 5.7/5,7 (3) LeeAnn 1 : AND BROWNING COMES UP, HOPING HIS MISFORTUNE WON'T REPEAT AT THIS OLYMPICS... THE NAIVE. Linda8894 : Judge 5: 4.6/5.5 (6) Galileocan : Judge 3: 4.7 / 5.7 (6) Faxel 1 : Judge 1: 4.7/5.6 (6) Dogonice : Judge 2: 4.9 5.8 (6) RONTANO : Judge 7 ; 4.8 / 5.8 (6) LJohn61755 : Judge 9: 5.4 5.5 (5) CanadaSk8 : UGH,IT HURTS judge 4: 5.2/5.8(6) LJohn61755 : Sorry, Ordinal for Browning is ^ LJohn61755 : 6 Galileocan : no bias there judge! RONTANO : : )) LeeAnn 1 : AND PETRENKO, WHO WAS/IS AS WHITE AS A GHOST . LeeAnn 1 : GOOD JOB WORKING THROUGH THE PAIN, CANADA. :) Linda8894 : Judge 4: 5.0/5.6 (5) Galileocan : Judge 3: 5.2 / 5.6 (4) Dogonice : Judge 2: 5.1 5.8 (4) LJohn61755 : If I must, Judge 9: 5.6 5.6 (5) RONTANO : Judge 7 ; 5.1 / 5,6 (5) Faxel 1 : Judge1: 5.0/5.7 (4) Linda8894 : Watch the comments, Judge 9! CanadaSk8 : 4:5.2/ 5.5 (5) LJohn61755 : Yes, Ma'am. LeeAnn 1 : FYI, LINDA, YOU ARE JUDGE 4, STOP TRYING TO JUDGE FOR CANADASK8. :P :) Galileocan : tsk tsk tsk Linda8894 : Sorry I thought you gave me the number 5. LeeAnn 1 : OKAY, GREAT, TEH SHORT PROGRAMS ARE OVER, GIVE ME A SECOND TO FIGURE OUT WHO CAME IN WHAT PLACE. RONTANO : What fun.. I can LeeAnn 1 : IN THE MEANTIME, THE SPECTATORS ARE FREE TO JUMP ALL OVER THE JUDGES FOR QUESTIONING. LeeAnn 1 : HEHEHEHE. RONTANO : ''t beleive how close we are! LJohn61755 : Thanks, Lee. Galileocan : Can judges question other judges!?? RONTANO : Were right on the money Gal! Dogonice : Actually, I had Eric Millot 4th and Steven Cousins 6th. Sesti : Question: was it a misprint, Gal, 'cause you gave out 2 first place ordinals... RONTANO : I find it hard to beleive I had brian third, but this artistic although not good was higher than some Faxel 1 : Gal, were your marks for Boitano a misprint? RONTANO : of those who skated well. Galileocan : That's correct....what is wrong with two first place ordinals? Galileocan : I marked Boitano identical to you faxel Nijinska : Good judging, Dogonice : ) Sesti : Sorry....didn't read the marks right.... Galileocan : Sesti if a judge gives two skaters the identical mark, their ordinal is the same RONTANO : Yes, you are probably more accurate Dogonice than what actually happened. Faxel 1 : Oops, sorry Gal. RONTANO : Hi, Deb! TW Mowry : Hi guys it has been a while! LeeAnn 1 : OKAY, THE PLACEMENTS ARE: Dogonice : Thanks, Marie - hi! LeeAnn 1 : 6 - BROWNING RONTANO : Just thorough with The SHORT program LeeAnn 1 : 5 - PETRENKO LeeAnn 1 : 4 - BOITANO LeeAnn 1 : 3 - CANDELORO Sesti : Trying to keep up with the scrolling screen was difficult... LeeAnn 1 : 2 - URMANOV LeeAnn 1 : WHOA! SORRY, LeeAnn 1 : THAT'S 2 - STOJKO LeeAnn 1 : 1 - URMANOV. Faxel 1 : Whew! LeeAnn 1 : HEY, MORRY. CanadaSk8 : Lee Ann, you got my hopes up. MorryS : Hello Galileocan : Faxel....no bias now RONTANO : Hi morry! Nijinska : yes! yes! : ) TW Mowry : Hi Morry Linda8894 : Hi Morry! Dogonice : <applause from conservative judges> Galileocan : you are a judge you know LJohn61755 : Hey, Morry. Sesti : Hi Morry! LeeAnn 1 : THAT'S SORT OF IN KEEPING WITH TEH OLYMPICS. LeeAnn 1 : OKAY, NOW WE GO TO THE LONG PROGRAM. LeeAnn 1 : READY? RONTANO : Alexi.. Dog.. did you bribe the judges!?? :))) LeeAnn 1 : HAS THE ICE BEEN ZAMBONIED? Dogonice : Nyet. Galileocan : Lee Ann......problem! LeeAnn 1 : WE CAN DO MORE QUESTION AND ANSWERS AFTERWARDS. Galileocan : PROBLEM Galileocan : problem.....please reply LeeAnn 1 : WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? Galileocan : I gave Stojko and Urmanov my first place ordinal Galileocan : that means that they both got 4 1st place and 3 seconds....it is a tie! RONTANO : Whew! LeeAnn 1 : YOU'RE RIGHT! SORRY! IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A TIE AFTER THE SHORT? RONTANO : YEs.. Galileocan : Absolutely!!! LeeAnn 1 : OKAY, I FIXED IT ON MY NOTE SHEET. Galileocan : this means that there is no second place ordinal.....Candeloro gets 1.5 (3) LeeAnn 1 : URMANOV AND STOJKO ARE TIED. THANKS GALILEOCAN. LeeAnn 1 : ON TO TEH LONG PROGRAM. LeeAnn 1 : YEP, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE NOW GALILEOCAN. LeeAnn 1 : BROWNING IS UP FIRST DURING THE LONG. LeeAnn 1 : SCORES, PLEASE, JUDGES... Dogonice : Judge #2: 5.7 5.9 (2) Galileocan : Judge 3: 5.7 / 5.9 (2) LJohn61755 : Judge 9: 5.4 5.4 (6) Faxel 1 : Judge 1: 5.6/5.7 (4) Linda8894 : Judge 4: 5.6/5.8 RONTANO : judge 7 : 5.6 / 5.7 (3) Linda8894 : Sorry, the ordinal is (6) LeeAnn 1 : ORDINAL, PLEASE, LINDA, AND YOU ARE JUDGE #5. CanadaSk8 : Judge 4: 5.7/5.9(2) RONTANO : (goodness.. Is ordinal now final standing.. I didn;t figure it otherwise???) Linda8894 : You told lme that I was 4!! Which is it?? Galileocan : I think Lee Ann wants your ordinal/place meent for the free skate only...right??? CanadaSk8 : I'm so proud, I feel tears in my eyes. LeeAnn 1 : NO, ORDINAL IS WHERE YOU PLACE THEM IN THE LONG PROGRAM. LeeAnn 1 : 5. RONTANO : (I don RONTANO : Don RONTANO : I don't know if I can figure that fast??) LeeAnn 1 : LINDA, SORRY, WHAT WAS YOUR ORDINAL FOR BROWNING. I DIDN'T SEE IT. Dogonice : Just copy my scores, Ron, they're already figured. (: RONTANO : ; ) LeeAnn 1 : PETRENKO IS UP NEXT.... REMEMBER THE ORDINAL YOU'RE GIVING IS JUST FOR THE LONG PROGRAM ONLY. NOT OVER Linda8894 : 6 Lee. RONTANO : (O.K. I have Kurt inn ordinal 2 now.. a tie) LeeAnn 1 : ALL. Faxel 1 : Judge 1: 5.8/5.9 (1) Galileocan : Judge 3: 5.8 / 5.8 (3) Dogonice : Judge 2: 5.7 5.8 (3) LJohn61755 : Judge 9: 5.7 5.8 (3) Linda8894 : Judge5: 5.7/5.8 (5) AWilli1767 : hello CanadaSk8 : Judge 4: 5.5/5.7 (5) CanadaSk8 : oops that should have been 5.6 for technical RONTANO : judge 7 : 5.7 / 5.5 (4) LeeAnn 1 : AND BOITANO.... LJohn61755 : Judge 9: 5.5 5.7 (5) RONTANO : (Correct, forth if two seconds??) Faxel 1 : Judge 1: 5.4/5.5 (6) Galileocan : Judge 3: 5.5 / 5.4 (6) Linda8894 : Judge 5: 5.8/5.8 LeeAnn 1 : (YOU LOST ME RONTANO.) Linda8894 : Oridinal (3) Dogonice : Judge 2: 5.5 5.7 (6) Galileocan : me too RONTANO : Judge 7: 5.1 / 5.1 (6) CanadaSk8 : judge 4:5.5-5.7 (6) LeeAnn 1 : LOREN? LJohn61755 : Yes. CanadaSk8 : Excuse me............... RONTANO : (Sorry.. I have two skaters with ordinal 2.. If viktor was my next choice.. he would be 4 correct? LeeAnn 1 : NEVERMIND. JUST FOUND YOUR SCORE. Galileocan : Correct Ron CanadaSk8 : I need to make a correction. LJohn61755 : ok LeeAnn 1 : YES, RONTANO. TW Mowry : Guys sorry to interrupt but I am not sure how long I will be on. LeeAnn 1 : WHAT'S YOUR CORRECTION? RONTANO : Thanks gal.. Figuring got the best of me this round TW Mowry : For those of you who are interested FIGURE SKATING WORLD is up and running on the net. CanadaSk8 : Petrenko scores should be 5.7/5.7(5) Faxel 1 : Can't change scores in the middle of the game Canada! LeeAnn 1 : OKAY, GOT IT CANADA. TW Mowry : You can get there via http://turnpike.net/~adweb/fsw LeeAnn 1 : WHAT'S TEH ADDRESS TW MOWRY? TW Mowry : Using Netscape is best but you can see it using AOL software. CanadaSk8 : No, I was reading my short, by accident. LeeAnn 1 : THANKS! LeeAnn 1 : SHOULD WE GO ON? RONTANO : Sure. Faxel 1 : In that case, the referee has no objections. LeeAnn 1 : CANDELORO IS NEXT... LJohn61755 : Judge 9: 5.6 5.7 (4) Dogonice : Judge 2: 5.7 5.6 (5) Galileocan : Judge 3: 5.8 / 5.6 (5) RONTANO : Judge 7: 5.5 / 5.2 (5) Faxel 1 : Judge 1: 5.6/5.5 (5) Linda8894 : Judge 5: 5.7/5.8 (4) CanadaSk8 : Judge 4: 5.6/5.7 (4) LeeAnn 1 : NOW STOJKO.... LJohn61755 : Judge 9: 5.8 5.9 (2) Faxel 1 : Judge 1: 5.8/5.6 (3) Galileocan : Judge 3: 5.9 / 5.8 (1) RONTANO : Judge 7: 5.8 / 5.6 (1) CanadaSk8 : judge 4: 5.9/5.8(1) Dogonice : Judge 2: 5.8 5.6 (4) Linda8894 : Judge 5: 5.9/5.7 (2) RONTANO : DOG! :))) Dogonice : RON! LeeAnn 1 : AND URMANOV! LJohn61755 : Judge 9: 5.9 5.9 (1) Gable3 : What is the Topic? Dogonice : Judge 2: 5.9 5.9 (1) Linda8894 : Judge 5: 5.9/5.9 (1) CanadaSk8 : Judge 4: 5.6/5.8 (3) Faxel 1 : Judge 1: 5.7/5.8 (2) Galileocan : Judge 3: 5.8 / 5.7 (4) LeeAnn 1 : WE'RE FINISHING UP RE-JUDGING THE 1994 MENS OLYMPIC COMPETITION. RONTANO : Judge 7: 5.6 / 5.7 (2) Faxel 1 : Whew, this is close! LeeAnn 1 : GOOD JOB JUDGES. :) JMacdon711 : Hi, sorry I'm so late. RONTANO : Thanks.. you too.!~ RONTANO : Hello Deb.. NOW we can shout! LeeAnn 1 : WHILE I FIGURE OUT THE PLACEMENTS, EVERYONE GETS TO ASK THE JUDGES ANYTHING THEY WANT... Galileocan : Too Bloody Close....we'll need IBM on this one! RONTANO : HA~ RONTANO : You mean a MAC!! RONTANO : (Always controversy!) JMacdon711 : Has the judging gone pretty much the same. RONTANO : :)) Linda8894 : Go blue!! Galileocan : Sorry Dogonice : Quesion for LJohn .... only a *5.4* presentation for 'Casablanca'? TW Mowry : Guys I am going to Skate America so I plan on getting more photos in the library once I get back. Galileocan : What happens when there is seven judges and there are equal ordinals the top two skaters??? Galileocan : I think its a tie!!!! LeeAnn 1 : (QUESTION. IN CASE OF A TIE, THE LONG PROGRAM IS THE DECIDING FACTOR, NO?) Galileocan : Two Gold medalists!! RONTANO : Well.. I had no idea I would keep Alexi up there.. (2nd).. His spins and centering lost it for me! Linda8894 : Great, I have really enjoyed the ones you put there so far! RONTANO : (or lack of it!) Galileocan : Yes...but I think we have a dead heat here!! LeeAnn 1 : HANG ON GALILEOCAN. Linda8894 : Yes, Lee. RONTANO : I beleive that is right LeeAnn LJohn61755 : I felt the choreography was nice and would have been really nice had all the elements been JMacdon711 : Urmanov 1st again? I totally disagree. LJohn61755 : completed. RONTANO : Me too! Galileocan : They were tied going into the free skate and they both have 3 1st 2 2nds 1 3rd and 1 4th Galileocan : Its a tie....Two TW Mowry : I have been e-mailing with Adrian Chew the person running Figure Skating World and I am going to try CanadaSk8 : The tension is getting to me. Galileocan : Its a tie ...two gold medalists!!!! RONTANO : Are we consistant at least or what!:) TW Mowry : to set up an interview with Todd while I am in Detroit for FSW. Faxel 1 : I guess it's all Victor's fault . . . . Sesti : The crowd waits with baited breath... Galileocan : Fax......you made it a tie by giving Viktor your first place ordinal!! Faxel 1 : If he hadn't skated so well we wouldn't have had a tie. JMacdon711 : TW, how are you able to do this? LeeAnn 1 : OKAY, HERE'S HOW IT LOOKS, I THINK.. Linda8894 : Sounds great, keep us all posted TW. LeeAnn 1 : 6 - BOITANO Faxel 1 : I knew I was doing this. I just couldn't help it. LeeAnn 1 : 5 - CANDELORO TW Mowry : Do what? LeeAnn 1 : 4 - PETRENKO LeeAnn 1 : 3 - BROWNING Galileocan : It has to be a tie! LeeAnn 1 : 2 - STOJKO JMacdon711 : Get an interview with Todd? LeeAnn 1 : 1 - URMANOV. Galileocan : How Lee Ann!????? SS8TOR : HI Just got home RONTANO : Rigged again! :))) Linda8894 : Yes, TW. Sesti : A medal for Kurt!!!! The crowd goes wild!!! RONTANO : LOL TW Mowry : I don't know if I will but I am going to contact his agent and try to set it up. Dogonice : I heartily commend LeeAnn on this fine decision! JMacdon711 : That is totally cool!! Nijinska : wonderful! Great job, judges! : )) Faxel 1 : Applause, applause. LJohn61755 : Good Job, LeeAnn RONTANO : YEs.. I too had kurt third.. THE only man to do a sprial.. nicer than any jump! Linda8894 : Contact his coach, it is much easier going that way. LeeAnn 1 : ::BOWING:: Dogonice : Thank you, thank you. Linda8894 : Great job Lee, this is a lot of work. Galileocan : There are 3 1st place ordinals, two 2nds, 1 third and 1 4th.....each!!! Its a tie!!!!!!!!! Sesti : Wonderful job, LeeAnn, judges... NoHit : Wonderful job, judges!! This is great! I've never been to one of these before! RONTANO : Dog.. you gloat@! CanadaSk8 : No longer do we have to hear- 4 time world champion, but never reached his olympic dream. TW Mowry : But I have had luck with an agent already ... very nice to deal with. RONTANO : (You've been spending too much time with Gal! :)))) LeeAnn 1 : Which two skaters are you talking about Galileocan. Dogonice : I *told* ya not to put Elvis first. But NO, you wouldn't listen. RONTANO : Teasing: )) ) LOL Galileocan : Stojko and Urmanov have the exact same placements!!! Its a tie!!! SS8TOR : Sorry I'm so late. doing my civic duty Who won ? CanadaSk8 : You keep fighting Galileocan. RONTANO : I'm on your side GAL!! Galileocan : 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 1 3rd and 1 4th each!! Its elementary! Dogonice : LeeAnn said Aleksei won -- just *accept it*. (: RONTANO : Agreement at last:))) NoHit : But if it's a tie, it goes to the one with the best artistic marks. LeeAnn 1 : NO, it's a 4-3 split vote. Galileocan : What!??? NoHit : Fine with me. Nijinska : Give it up, Urmanov rules as always! : ) Linda8894 : The referee's decision is final. Dogonice : Aleksei had a better costume!! LJohn61755 : Barf JMacdon711 : How could Urmanov get the same Tech mark that Elvis did? NoHit : Aleksei rules!!!!!! LeeAnn 1 : faxel, Dogonice, Linda, and LJohn all gave higher marks to Urmanov. RONTANO : I don't know.. Elviss short pants were impressive:) Nijinska : Aleksei *always* has the best costume! CanadaSk8 : I think I'm going do puke all over my judges sheet. LeeAnn 1 : Galieocan, Canda, and Rontao all gave higher marks to Stojko. JMacdon711 : Why on the Tech side? Galileocan : No no no.....do you know how to calculate......????? RONTANO : Here we go! :))))))))))) LeeAnn 1 : Tell me what you did. Galileocan : You go by the most firsts and seconds.....their tied Linda8894 : Best costume??? Pullease! RONTANO : Pass the popcorn! LJohn61755 : Urmanov ? Great Costume? He borrowed it from one of the ladies finalists Galileocan : then thirds....their tied Galileocan : then fourths tied again CanadaSk8 : Let's get ready to R UUUUUUUMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBLE!!!!!!!!!!! TW Mowry : Assuming I get an interview set up are there any questions you guys would like answered? LeeAnn 1 : And fifths? NoHit : "Borrowed it from a ladies' finalists? COOOOOOL!! LeeAnn 1 : Linda8894 had stojko in fifth. Galileocan : They each have 3 first place, 2 2nd place , 1 3rd Place and 1 4th Place....a Tie!!! No 5/6 p Nijinska : Maybe, Gal, but he looked lovely in it! Dogonice : LOL, I'd give bonus points for that. Galileocan : Linda? RONTANO : Wheres Morry when you need him? Still here Morry to settle our debate? Sesti : I think he left... JMacdon711 : Okay Linda, what's the deal with the 5th place mark? TW Mowry : Morry left ... Faxel 1 : There's got to be a tie-breaker. JMacdon711 : What's green and ice-skates? Linda8894 : No, Lee I didnot have stoyko in f5th - 2 in long, 1 in short. NoHit : Especially if he wears Oksana's swan costume. :-) LJohn61755 : I gave Urmanov a costume deduction. Pullease. RONTANO : Yes, FORM and spins.. Alexi looses.. Dogonice : I gave Elvis one in the short. Linda8894 : Alexi the frog??? JMacdon711 : He tried to wear the swan thing this year. Sesti : Can Oksana wear Elvis' leather, then? NoHit : No, no, no. Give him costume bonus points! Sesti : :-))) Nijinska : Why, are you jealous, LJohn? LJohn61755 : for what, more lace than Oksana ? CanadaSk8 : I'd rather see Surya in Elvis' leather. Dogonice : Why not? NoHit : Surya in leather.....??!!! LJohn61755 : Only because he's taller than me. SS8TOR : Boy, you got are quick tonight !!! Galileocan : We need a recount here Lee Ann.......ITS A TIE!!!! LINDA GAVE A 2ND PLACE ORDINAL! Dogonice : I like that .... Dogonice : Referee, one of the judges is nutting up, please escort him from the building. LeeAnn 1 : Wait - Linda was judge five, she didn't give him a five. hang on. CanadaSk8 : I htink we should say our score for Alexi and Elvis, again. RONTANO : LOL :)) LJohn61755 : Good Idea TW Mowry : Well guys I have to go ... if you come up with questions for an interview e-mail me. Galileocan : No changes folks! TW Mowry : I will do my best if I can get it. Linda8894 : Let, Lee look over the scores again and maybe she will need our ordinals again. Sesti : 'Bye, TW! LJohn61755 : Ok Morry, We'll let you know RONTANO : Now maybe we can have a little compasion for the judges we scrutinize so often:)) Galileocan : I am logging this chat so I will send it to the CSFSA for analyzation RONTANO : Bye Deb! CanadaSk8 : Bye, Debbie Dogonice : I will FAX Tamara Moskvina a copy as well! RONTANO : Ha.. good idea Gal... SS8TOR : Great pictures TW ! CanadaSk8 : That's what I want the CFSA to know what nutcases we are. Linda8894 : And the ASPCA as well. NoHit : Any bitmap files??? :-) TW Mowry : Thanks SS8TOR hopefully a couple will show up in FSW. TW Mowry : Bye CanadaSk8 : Ooh, good one, Linda. Galileocan : I think Lee Ann has hired an Accountant on this one LJohn61755 : Linda, ROTFWL Linda8894 : Thank you! NoHit : Listen, gotta run before AOL makes me go broke. I gather that Alexei won? RONTANO : NO! Galileocan : Does anyone know if the ordinals are exactly the same if there is a tie breaker?? Rules pls? Dogonice : Yes!!!! Bye Nina! RONTANO : Bye.. LeeAnn 1 : Doing it by ordianl counts, it is a tie. Doing it by how many judges put them in a higher ordianl, CanadaSk8 : NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!!!! Linda8894 : Alexi needs the ASPCA to judge his funky chicken move. Nijinska : Bye NoHit! LeeAnn 1 : Alexei won. NoHit : Bye, Bye. Let me know what happens. Nina (NoHit) Galileocan : Ordinals are what determines the winner Lee Ann..if there is no majority you go to 1st & 2nd LJohn61755 : ANOTHER DEDUCTION !!!!!! Dogonice : Yes!!! Bring out the flags and play the Russian national anthem, please. Nijinska : Aleksei wins here, and in real life, so everyone better accept it! ; ) Galileocan : There still is no majority even when you go to fourth place ordinals CanadaSk8 : OH, Canada............ CanadaSk8 : Our home and Native land......... Linda8894 : Tie breaker goes to tech in the short and artistic in the long. Faxel 1 : I haven't seen anything so close since the Battle of the Brians. RONTANO : Obviously we need professional councel:)) Galileocan : What I want to know is there some way that breaks a tie when there are the same ordinals? Dogonice : No, that shouldda been for '88. LeeAnn 1 : The majority of the judges, gave Alexei a higher ordianls than Stojko. Linda8894 : Yes, psychiatry, for sure. Dogonice : It was close like the Battle of the Brians. At least the right man won *this time.* Galileocan : How do you figure Lee Ann...Linda said her ordinal for Stojko was (2) Linda8894 : A tie in both reverts to the technical I do believe. Nijinska : : ))) LeeAnn 1 : After going how many ordinals of a first place, second, etc... LeeAnn 1 : each one got. RONTANO : Just rub it in Dog.. You wait, Gal and I will get this misunderstanding corrected!: )) Galileocan : there are 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 1 3rd and 1 4th LeeAnn 1 : Got and look and see who score the other highest overall. SS8TOR : Hey guys, I got a backstage in for the NSO Concert On Ice this Sat.Practice time too *:-) Galileocan : each one had exactly the same!!!! LeeAnn 1 : Faxel gave Alexi a hight place thank Stojko. RONTANO : I think Linda may be right.. What would that do linda??? Linda8894 : I say that in case of a tie, they are both disqualified. LeeAnn 1 : No, I mean look at each judge's place of that sktaer, tha the total ordianls. Galileocan : Right on Linda! Faxel 1 : I sure did. CanadaSk8 : Yeah, and Kurt will win. LJohn61755 : Linda, I like that idea. Make 'em re skate the long program. RONTANO : Gal it IS scarry.. we are agreeing tonight! Galileocan : Well that's not how it is judged at the amateur level Lee Ann Linda8894 : I would have to review all the scores again. Hang On. LeeAnn 1 : So did Dogonice, Linda, and LJohn. LeeAnn 1 : Even after a tie? Sesti : Cool, SS8TOR!!! I still haven't managed to get any contacts for "A Skating Romance"... SS8TOR : I can't wait !! What a day it will be Galileocan : EACH had 3 1sts......2 2nds.......1 3rd....and 1 4th.....after that...I dont know what to do LeeAnn 1 : I know before a tie, we go to the ordianls overall and count them up. But it's a tie, so that doesn't LeeAnn 1 : help us at all. Linda8894 : I can't get back to the scores as I am not logging, but if it is a tie, I believe that Elvis Linda8894 : won the short, No? LeeAnn 1 : Okay, since we don't know what to do, I'm making up rules until we do. I'll write to teh USFSA and see Galileocan : Anyone have a rule book!!! LeeAnn 1 : what we would official have to do. SS8TOR : Sesti I'll give a rundown next week. want any autographs ? Linda8894 : What I am quoting is USFSA rules. RONTANO : I've seen two people on a podium before.. It does happen.. Yes. I do .. what to look for?? Dogonice : I have the 'Spectators Guide' -- it has a section on scoring. LeeAnn 1 : Until I get a response from them, Urmvanov wins. LeeAnn 1 : They tied in the short. LJohn61755 : Yes, give me a minute. Galileocan : Lets call it a tie!!! Sesti : YES!!!!!!! That would be wonderful!!!! RONTANO : It has to be.. (I think:)) LeeAnn 1 : OKAY! LET'S CALL IT A TIE AND LEAVE IT! Galileocan : Then everyone is happy!!! Galileocan : HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RONTANO : Yes.. (sort of:)) LeeAnn 1 : Fine, it's a tie! everyone is happy, then? Faxel 1 : Judge 1 objects. CanadaSk8 : HeyHey, I'm Sesti's close personal friend, I should get autographs, too. SS8TOR : I'll take some pictures and get some autographs for you. What's your name ?? Nijinska : No, everyone would *not* be happy! RONTANO : Right Dog?? : ))) Galileocan : What a negotiator.....they dont call me salesman of the year for nothin ya know Faxel 1 : I say we wait till we get a rulebook. SS8TOR : Who do you want Canada ? Sesti : My name is Jaime....you are wonderful!!! Linda8894 : Loren is checking now. CanadaSk8 : Well, who is in it? RONTANO : I've got one.. were do I look.. I;m going to grab it now... Galileocan : EVERYBODY WAIT THERE.....ILL BE RIGHT BACK WITH THE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LeeAnn 1 : yeah, lren. (A couple of minutes of the forum is missing here. Sorry.) Galileocan: Faxel........the book of Peter Linda8894: Yes, that is right and I would be very grateful. LJohn61755: the tiebreaker is the skater with the best place in the freekate. Faxel 1: Book of Peter?? Linda8894: I will IM you my address. LeeAnn 1: That is tied, too, Loren. RONTANO: same total ordinals it is a TIE.. Page 42 rule book! LJohn61755: Freeskate. (damn fingers!) LJohn61755: the they remain tied. SS8TOR: I was just copying the screen names down so I can let you know how I do LJohn61755: Page 42 of the rulebook. Dogonice: Is that 1 Peter or 2 Peter? RONTANO: :) I'm not fooling. LJohn61755: Me either. Galileocan: aCTUALLY REVELATIONS Linda8894: The gospel according to Ernie, of course. RONTANO: Of course.. my book is 1992:)))))))) Faxel 1: Mine is under a pile of boxes. Can' RONTANO: (then again we need rules in effect for 94.. not 95 LJohn61755: mine's last years edition Galileocan: Darn it all............its a bloody tie....thats it......but how exciting!!! LJohn61755: It's a Tie. Galileocan: Fax....bet you wish you put Viktor second now? SS8TOR: Hey Ron, How's Matt doing ?? RONTANO: I think we are all satisfied.. LeeAnn.. maybe you could copy our forum to Morry and see.... Faxel 1: I knew it would happen. I agonized over it all night long. RONTANO: if he can work it out. Galileocan: Ron........are you mad? Sesti: Wow....that didn't solve any old arguments at all..... Linda8894: Well, Lee what is next for this group? Galileocan: Like complete bonkers? LJohn61755: Lee, Linda and all, this was great fun. Thanks for inviting me. RONTANO: Hi, SS8tor.. Matt is fine!! (NO.. i'm not mad at all) Faxel 1: Yea, something like that. RONTANO: Silly@! CanadaSk8: I think Alekis costume takes up too much room. They both don't fit on the podium Dogonice: How about '94 Dance? (: RONTANO: Crazy, yes. Linda8894: Loren, call me if you want to skate tomorrow night. Galileocan: well your earlier statement indicates mental problems ronnie!!! RONTANO: I spoke with Matt on saturday and he is excited that he has been invited to Skate in the JIMMY FUND Galileocan: Might as well send it to Ronald Reagan......ronnie! LeeAnn 1: All right. I'll write to the USFSA, but let's just consider this a tie, eh? LJohn61755: Okay, gotta go, talk to you later. RONTANO: : )) DANE PURSL: Does anyone know the top six all-time batting averages and who they were? My daughter needs SS8TOR: Mike is too !! and I am making his shirt !!! LeeAnn 1: I have to go and read the bb and other junk now. See you all later. Hope you like the trivia game. LeeAnn 1: Night. RONTANO: Great!! I hope they don't get edit happy!! I really want to see Matt have his first TV coverage! SS8TOR: Night Take care RONTANO: Night Leeann>. Linda8894: I must reun as well. Thanks for a great time. See you next time. Good night. Faxel 1: Thanks judges, referee! RONTANO: Night all! Got to go too... SS8TOR: They cut Mike off his first year, but he was on last year RONTANO: (Still friends DOG? :))) Sesti: G'nite..... SS8TOR: Night Ron RONTANO: My fingers are crossed SS8TOR! Dogonice: Nite Ron ... yeah, still friends. (: We still have Oksana, don't we? RONTANO: YES!! :))) SS8TOR: I'm off too! I'll do my best with the autographs!! Night Dog ! Sesti: G'nite!!! Thanks again! Dogonice: Nite! Faxel 1: 'Nite! CanadaSk8: Goodnight SS8TOR. Thank's and have a wonderful time. Sesti: Now, if only I could figure out a way backstage at "A Skating Romance"..... CanadaSk8: Cling to someone who looks important. Sesti: Either that, or pull my concert trick of hanging around the backstage door until someone Sesti: feels sorry for me.... CanadaSk8: That'll always work as well. CanadaSk8: Well, this has just turned into the party room. Sesti: Looking at my skating TV schedule...there's nothing on tap for this weekend...you mean I'm Sesti: stuck with Rams fever all weekend??? Dogonice: Would y'all like to help me with a project? Sesti: Sure! What is it? CanadaSk8: I don't think there is anything on for another two weeks. Dogonice: I'm doing a tape comparing different interpretations of the same music by different skaters. Dogonice: Give me some ideas! Dogonice: For example -- 'Dear Father' by Brian Orser, followed by Paul Wylie. CanadaSk8: You mean like if two people use the same music? Faxel 1: Don't pick Firebird or Carmen, or there may not be enough tapes in the world. CanadaSk8: Oh, got it. Sesti: How many people have done "Meditation"? Dogonice: I have Oksana & Caryn for that one. CanadaSk8: Or everyone and Nessun Dorma. Dogonice: Yes, I'm trying to limit it to two -- preferably skaters with a great deal of musicality.